Session Start: Mon Apr 25 18:23:20 2005 Session Ident: jafo [06:23:20 pm] Session Ident: jafo (jafo@pimp.cet.net) [06:23:20 pm] jafo is jafo@pimp.cet.net * Just another fucking observer [06:23:20 pm] jafo on @#efnet.org @#bgp @#HamRadio @#efnet.net [06:23:20 pm] jafo using ircd.lagged.org The Panty Twister [06:23:20 pm] jafo Sponsored by Kurious [06:23:20 pm] jafo End of /WHOIS list. [06:23:40 pm] > heyo, just curious how much you make on corp [06:23:47 pm] > *from [06:25:58 pm] > don't want to share then? ;) [06:27:37 pm] no [06:28:17 pm] > was wondering if you were looking to sell at all [06:28:27 pm] sell what? [06:28:31 pm] > corp [06:28:40 pm] how much you got? [06:28:52 pm] > thats irrilvant [06:28:59 pm] no it's not [06:29:24 pm] > I have enough. [06:29:30 pm] heh [06:29:35 pm] > it all depends if it's worth my while [06:30:09 pm] I don't know what you consider worth your while [06:30:45 pm] > well basically, I'm looking to increase my shells revenue, without a massive marketing campaign [06:31:17 pm] oh you currently do shells too? [06:31:18 pm] > so depending on what size customer base you already have, and how many customers you get per month, I would beable to judge whether it's worth my while [06:32:20 pm] Well, to even begin talking numbers. I would want at least 24 times the current monthly revenue. industry standard. [06:32:36 pm] > I understand this [06:33:11 pm] where are you from, btw? [06:33:15 pm] > however your terms are US terms, but we can nagosiate this depending on what [06:33:41 pm] > scrap that... you get the point [06:33:45 pm] > UK based [06:34:19 pm] ok uk.. so if I want to sell for $100, you'll pay $560 [06:34:22 pm] err $50 [06:34:45 pm] > sorry? [06:34:55 pm] exchange rate.. [06:35:21 pm] is'nt it about 2:1 ? [06:35:32 pm] > www.xe.com/ucc [06:36:02 pm] yeah 1.2:1 [06:36:07 pm] err 1.9 [06:36:21 pm] cool [06:36:32 pm] so you do shells right now? [06:36:36 pm] > correct [06:36:50 pm] how many accts do you have? [06:37:04 pm] > 3 servers, ~100 users each [06:37:11 pm] > 2 uk, 1 us [06:37:21 pm] that's pretty good. [06:37:50 pm] do you have problems with ddos? [06:38:43 pm] > yes on one server [06:40:00 pm] I used to have problems, then I became very selective on who I would allow onto the box. I've got about 85 accounts, and I've turned away probably the same amount. [06:40:09 pm] So it's been pretty stable for about 6 months now. [06:40:26 pm] > how do you make a decision on who you select to signup? [06:40:53 pm] It's a combincation between gut feeling, age, location. [06:41:04 pm] I've alltogether stopp allowing everytyhing but US and UK [06:41:07 pm] so that's helped alot [06:41:11 pm] > uhuh [06:41:18 pm] > unstandable [06:42:27 pm] > how many signups do you get per day? [06:42:44 pm] that's hard to say.. some days none. [06:42:48 pm] > uhuh [06:42:50 pm] > per month? [06:42:58 pm] I'd have to go thorugh and count [06:43:08 pm] > some kind of ball park figure [06:43:21 pm] > don't over exadurate [06:43:27 pm] well lemme skim for a sec. [06:46:10 pm] > - be right back while you check [06:47:15 pm] k [06:47:17 pm] done [06:47:17 pm] brb [06:47:30 pm] > okay [06:47:32 pm] > back [06:48:45 pm] jan, 16. Feb, 13. Mar, 9, So far this month 8. [06:49:57 pm] > what about traffic to corp.efnet.net what is that like? [06:50:07 pm] > per month [06:50:21 pm] I can check.. but I think most of it comes from www.efnet.net [06:52:08 pm] > if I was to buy corp from you, I would rebrand it as our own, however I would still want the advert space, link backs etc as before [06:52:55 pm] > 2 more issues I wish to raise are 1, maintainance, and 2, support [06:53:12 pm] dude just kick a little more and get www.efnet.net too [06:53:16 pm] the entire domain [06:53:26 pm] > uhuh [06:53:41 pm] > so you would be willing to offer up efnet.net with the package? [06:53:47 pm] yep [06:54:07 pm] > what bandwidth usage? [06:54:12 pm] I get many one support request per month. [06:54:17 pm] err maby [06:54:51 pm] lemme login and I can find out. [06:55:32 pm] you want it in GB/month? [06:55:40 pm] > please [06:55:49 pm] less than 40 [06:56:01 pm] 37 last month [06:57:16 pm] I have 700GB included in my plan. [06:57:53 pm] > ev1? [06:57:58 pm] yeah. [06:58:06 pm] > you pay $99/mo for that? [06:58:17 pm] I could.. but I chose the 149 server. [06:58:36 pm] > right okay, shells and hosting run from the same place? [06:58:45 pm] hosting? [06:58:49 pm] > hosting of efnet.net [06:58:54 pm] no [06:59:00 pm] but they can. [06:59:07 pm] > well yes, obviously ;) [06:59:17 pm] right now it's located where I work. [06:59:19 pm] www.efnet.net that is. [06:59:42 pm] > just I wasn't sure what you were saying as, as far as I could see corp and www wern't on the same box [06:59:58 pm] ah [06:59:58 pm] no [07:00:55 pm] watcha thinK? [07:01:14 pm] > 2 things. [07:01:23 pm] > 1 I need a ball park figure [07:01:31 pm] > 2, I need to discuss it further with my partners [07:02:53 pm] ok.. looks like I currently have 6 shells disabled cuz paypal wasn't able to fund this months' payment (I disable shells until their payment goes through). So if we round it down to 80 [07:03:28 pm] 24 months is $15,264 [07:03:48 pm] and whatever we kick in for efnet.net domain [07:06:36 pm] the cool thing is, if you aren't as strict as me, this thing could grow pretty quickly. [07:09:16 pm] > just playing with some figures at the moment [07:12:56 pm] > we'd be looking at spending more towards $11,000 (around £6000) at this time [07:13:15 pm] > between 5 and 6 anyway [07:14:12 pm] heh [07:14:38 pm] > between $9,500 and $11,000 [07:14:42 pm] > between $9,500 and $11,500 [07:15:03 pm] Yeah i'm not sure. [07:15:48 pm] are you thinking that figure for everythign? including the domain/website? [07:16:01 pm] > yes [07:16:09 pm] 1272 [07:16:15 pm] are you strapped or something? Or just jewin me down? [07:16:42 pm] > neither, it's what we are willing to part with in terms of investment at the moment [07:17:02 pm] Well I was thinking 15. [07:17:02 pm] > if it's not within our range, I cannot coordinate a deal [07:17:22 pm] How soon can you make this hapen? [07:17:32 pm] > within the next month or so [07:17:50 pm] ehh [07:18:01 pm] If we wait that long, i'll be bored of it :) [07:18:56 pm] Wire it over and it's all yours [07:19:04 pm] 11,500 [07:21:23 pm] > I will discuss this a little further to my partners [07:21:53 pm] call 'em up. price goes up 500 every day. [07:22:06 pm] > what email address can I get you at? [07:22:10 pm] brad@txic.net [07:22:16 pm] get it while I'm interesting [07:22:18 pm] interested [07:25:01 pm] > I understand that you may wish to only do this while your interested, "strike while the iron is hot" so to speak [07:26:18 pm] > however business transaction take a little longer to complete than buying a chocolate bar from your corner shop ;) [07:26:29 pm] not really [07:26:45 pm] if you wanna get bogged down in contracts and styuff, yhou can forget it. [07:26:58 pm] > i see [07:27:12 pm] > then how will you sign it over to us? [07:27:40 pm] > legally. [07:27:51 pm] Yeah I don't mind signing a two paragraph contract, signing all rights and interest to you... but we ain't gonna drag lawyers into this. [07:28:22 pm] > no problem, I hope to keep costs to a minimum [07:28:53 pm] call up your bro's.. let me know something [07:29:27 pm] > I'll let you know tomorrow on a decision, I'm still organising the details [07:29:36 pm] ok [07:30:31 pm] > jafo do your 80 users include non-paying users? [07:31:01 pm] checking [07:33:49 pm] hahah [07:33:49 pm] yeah [07:33:51 pm] sec [07:34:52 pm] Looks like 60. Our math was great. Session Time: Tue Apr 26 00:00:01 2005 Session Close: Tue Apr 26 11:47:50 2005 Session Start: Tue Apr 26 20:00:05 2005 Session Ident: jafo [08:00:05 pm] Session Ident: jafo (jafo@pimp.cet.net) [08:00:06 pm] any progress? [08:00:06 pm] jafo is jafo@pimp.cet.net * Just another fucking observer [08:00:06 pm] jafo on @#efnet.net @#HamRadio @#efnet.org @#bgp [08:00:06 pm] jafo using ircd.lagged.org The Panty Twister [08:00:06 pm] jafo is an IRC Operator [08:00:06 pm] jafo End of /WHOIS list. [08:03:41 pm] > at this time, we've decided to spend the money else where atm, thanks all the same jafo, sorry to waste your time [08:03:57 pm] ok [08:04:08 pm] didn't know if you knew it, but I'm like #3 on google. [08:04:11 pm] :) [08:04:38 pm] > I know all about it mate, which is why I considered it at all [08:04:56 pm] werd [08:05:15 pm] > cheers Session Close: Tue Apr 26 20:05:16 2005 Session Start: Tue Apr 26 20:05:20 2005 Session Ident: jafo [08:05:20 pm] Session Ident: jafo (jafo@pimp.cet.net) [08:05:20 pm] later [08:05:20 pm] jafo is jafo@pimp.cet.net * Just another fucking observer [08:05:20 pm] jafo on @#efnet.net @#HamRadio @#efnet.org @#bgp [08:05:20 pm] jafo using ircd.lagged.org The Panty Twister [08:05:20 pm] jafo is an IRC Operator [08:05:20 pm] jafo End of /WHOIS list. Session Close: Tue Apr 26 20:05:23 2005